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It is September 1998 and the aircraft ev.3303, one of the last three three-engined aircraft operated by our Air Force, is leaving its base in Čáslav for storage in Plané u ČB.
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Citace - koba :
scramble.nl uvádza, že predaný ako N223ML
To bude asi chyba, ked literatura uvadza, ze bol zosrotovany. Vid hned prvy prispevok.
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It could be a mistake if it was an isolated case, but according to the scramble.nl database not a single MiG-23ML aircraft was scrapped. And it even mentions what happened to some of the planes, as confirmed by users here on the forum. So I would be interested to know where it was based that ML and U were scrapped.
By the way, this particular aircraft is also in the databases - try googling the designation I wrote above...
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Citace - Cricket :
It was generally done with the "scrapped" a bit in the Swiss. In 1999, I talked about it in Budějovice with one flying pilot who was with us at SVS. And he said it's easy. As soon as the relevant machines were assembled at LOZKA's yard, their "papers" were taken and "SCRAPED" and the date were recorded. At that moment, it was removed from the register and there was only a pile of scrap metal. Whether it was broken down or sold, no one solved it. This was still happening at the age of twenty-three.[/Quote]
My post on this topic, made of Su-7BM 5617 from 21.3.2009
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Výpisem z registrací v USA (tedy agentury FAA) lze zjistit že daný stroj je opravdu nadále registrován viz registry.faa.gov
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cvrckov prispevok som predtym necital, ale robil som teraz zoznam ceskych MiG-23 a ziadna ML v databazi nebola uvedena ako "scrapped". preto som sa ozval, lebo ta informacia mi pride ako zavadzajuca
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No v porovnání s fotkou forum.valka.cz to spíše vypadá že databáze má někde chybu.
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dave, to tak vôbec nemusí byť. pozri si tieto fotky L-39: forum.valka.cz Pritom ten stroj lieta v Amerike. Pamätaj - čo sa dá rozložiť, dá sa aj zložiť
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Já vím jen to dokládá že armádou byl sešrotován (aneb papír snese vše), prodán za pár šupů jako šrot a následně prodán a znovu složen - prostě vlk se nažral a stát utřel hubu.
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aby som doplnil - to sporné šrotovanie sa týka strojov MiG-23: 2402, 2409, 2423, 3303, 3307, 4641, 4857, 8107
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Jinak mimo zápis, ten trup L-39 je rozložen přesně tak jak by se rozložil i při výměně motoru, tam k použití autogenu nedošlo (tedy pokud si dobře pamatuji některé záběry)
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Gentlemen, it's quite simple and already described here by Cricket.The information about the scrapping comes from the military records where the aircraft was simply written off as "Scrapped".Further, this record was not kept.If there is information that the real destruction did not occur (which as seen in this case is not accidental), it will of course be corrected according to reality.If not, the last verifiable record of the fate of the aircraft is valid and it is in these documents.
Otherwise on the scrapping- both the L-39 and MiG-23 in the previous links are as you can see quite nicely disassembled so their repairability or reassembly is very likely.On the other hand, the "disassembled" aircraft in the style of the Horní Jiřetín or České Budějovice shrouds are already unrepairable-just look where the distribution lines lead-outside the disassembly line, the aircraft are lying without landing gear on the ground,... repairability in this case is hardly to be expected...
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