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125 mm Ampulomyot Model 1941

125-мм ампуломёт образца 1941 года

     
Název:
Name:
125 mm ampulomjot vz. 1941
Originální název:
Original Name:
125-мм ампуломёт образца 1941 года
Kategorie:
Category:
ostatní
Výrobce:
Producer:
DD.MM.1940-DD.MM.1943 Závod č. 145 S.M.Kirova, ? /
DD.MM.RRRR-DD.MM.RRRR Závod č. 455, ?
Technické údaje:
Technical Data:
 
Hmotnost nenabité zbraně:
Weight Unloaded:
15 kg
Ráže:
Calibre:
125 mm
Náboj:
Cartridge:
-
Délka:
Length:
1002 mm
Délka hlavně:
Barrel Length:
- mm
Kapacita zásobníku:
Magazine Capacity:
1
Výkony:
Performance:
 
Rychlost střelby:
Rate of Fire:
5-6 ran/min
Úsťová rychlost:
Muzzle Velocity:
50 m/s
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Poznámka:
Note:
vrhač střel (ampulí)
Zdroje:
Sources:
ru.wikipedia.org
topwar.ru
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It comes to rare little-known weapon. Sometimes it is referred to as the flamethrower, but in essence, it is a primitive thrower shots (today we would probably say a grenade launcher). The gun was used only briefly in the second world war on the side of the USSR, although a similar weapon developed and the British at the time of the threat to the islands in the mid-1940 (the name was Newton Mostar). Ampulomet was produced in 1941 at the time of the attack of the germans (i.e. the second half of the year). At that time the industry was stěhován to the east and the manufacture of weapons has decreased, and it was therefore taken for the production of similar (a very primitive) unpretentious weapons which it was possible to produce without complex production facilities. Ampulomet was easy to produce, required or special materials or complex manufacturing equipment, therefore, was received into the arms of the.

It was a simple steel tube on one end closed and with the primitive mířidly. It seems that the weapon was meant for the use of hard habitat, this corresponds to the primitive lafetace on a pivot in a simple fork without any control of the delivery (due to the small range capability it probably wasn't necessary). The gun is controlled using two simple handle located next to the "conclusion". Itself conclusion was very simple-when you open a block of the conclusion is pushed backwards and inside was inserted into the hub with little bombs of black powder used to vymetení missiles, own a bullet diameter of 127 mm was nabíjena from the front to the mouth of the guns. The targeting of the weapon was used the front sight on the muzzle of the barrel and a simple high the visor with the holes for each distance. Shot was using the normal percussive matches (i.e. stroke) úderníkem at the end. The bullet diameter of 127 mm contained hořlavinu (that is why the weapon is sometimes considered as a flamethrower) which is after the impact of the cap spillages and flared. As hořlavina was supposedly used a mixture of phosphorus and oil. The germans tried several of the captured pieces and most of the reports come from these tests. The germans, of course the weapon was considered primitive, the soviet army it knocked out in 1942 from use and the remaining specimens were apparently scrapped. It is not known the number of units produced and this is a rather great rarity, which, if it is known it is not shown in any museum.


Name: Ampulemjot 1941 System Kartukov
Caliber: 127 mm
Total length: 1.02 m
Weight: 26 kg
Elevation: 0 to + 12°
Delivery: 360°
Muzzle velocity: 50 m/s
Maximum range: 250 m (274 yards)
The weight of the projectile: 1.5 to 1.8 kg.
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and surprisingly, VHU Prague, 8.5.2010, custom photo.
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So according to the information I got, for vymetení used the basic cartridge into the mortar.

Here is a link to a very useful page about this very interesting weapon

https://forum.bestway.com.ua/showthread.php?t=3726.
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She the ammunition that was used is very uncertain, on other forums it is mentioned, for example, broková cartridge caliber 12 with the black dust, (выстреливаемый холостым охотничьим патроном 12-го калибра) which seems from the perspective of hitting the total likely. On the page is a photo of the weapon when charging (allegedly from the South)
source : www.ww2incolor.com
https://sprachfuehrer.livejournal.com/205488.html

otherwise nowadays it is known several items from both vykpávek so apparently preserved (just like the one in the MHI) somewhere in the warehouse. A minimum of one is exhibited in Russia, the findings should be here : www.google.cz.
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They finally managed it. Author archive..
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the continuation of the.
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the continuation of the.
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The archive of the author

The germans weapons used - only put in a museum..
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Custom photo MHI 30.9.12.
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Diskuse
Turn to me quite logical to come the use of the filling into the mortar, after all, are available with the army more often than černoprachové shells to the shotgun.
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Well it's about 12 brokovém the hub is written everywhere (even on the cos put) and the use of the filling into the mortar doesn't seem more appropriate, bojekomplekt consisting of 10 "bullets" no longer perform fencing whilst-2 and 12 rounds caliber 12 is supplied as a whole. And in truth it was probably for the homemade manufacturer easier to get hold of the ammo into the shotgun, before filling into the mortar. Oh and last, if I looked ANYWHERE to mention mortar content everywhere just about brokovém the hub and even in Russian (i.e. the closest) sources. This to me just leads to the fact that it was used just the one charge. I admit that I don't know where you get this information I got, I on her...
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With ohľadom on the kind of strely v is počiatočná rýchlosť nízka, the pressure in the main small and dostrel 250 metrov is probably the maximum of what sa could be dosiahnuť. Ampula To-2, what is a hollow sklenená guľa priemeru 125mm s obsahom 1l zápalnej zmesi (as appropriate núdzovo sklenená fľaša) is veľmi brittle projectile, probably the only sklenený projectile similar rozmerov and weight practically introduced into arms (used the sa and in the letectve - u Il-2).

Pre porovnanie - nábojka pre mortar vystrelí 120mm mínu on the weight of 10-15 kg on vzdialenosť at least 300-400m, ampoules mali hmotnosť about desatinovú, so that the pressures in the main town vytvárala broková nábojka in ampulomete had even veľmi low and vyššie ask, even couldn't, pretože sklenená strela would vyššie pressures and zrýchlenia nevydržala..
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She the barrel is in fact a coiled and welded a plate on the strength of the 2mm, so no big pressures should as well not..
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I am glad that it was out of control. Of course you may not be the truth of my claim, would like to get hold of a prescription (or it but might not completely match) or rather the nábojku.

Due to possible series production is rather simpler to use a basic nábojku to 80 mm the mortar (in the fight would be even easier, because the basic fillings are the same in Russian, German, and other mortars), than to produce and store černoprachové been held every year hubs. However, as I wrote, it's not impossible.
Ad pressure of the filling 120 mm mortar, certainly, this is quite significant, however, pressures in the 80 mm are certainly not so great..
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Oh and where did you get this information took? in any resources I have on her. (on the contrary, they rarely agree brokovém the hub). And when it comes to brokový charge, maybe you were wondering that it was one of the few commonly available ammunition in the USSR. It was commonly purchasable, and there were enough everywhere, which is a bomb into the mortar to say about impossible. They hunting bullets in the USSR were subject to a total strict supervision, but been held every year, were substantially more affordable and mainly přebíjeli. Even to this day there are in Russia the metal of the bullets for the shotgun (and the larger caliber should be 10) for professional hunting. Definitely have been hunting bullets commonly available, the more that bojekomplekt is contained in the packaging, so after the truth is the availability of enough outside. Bojekomplekt was one pack where there was 10 no longer perform fencing whilst-2 (i.e. missiles) and 12 výmetných charges. Tkže operation of the power netrápilo where is doing import, either the ammunition had or not, but definitely nescháněli nothing around the area..
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still I mean, one thing to ponder - on https://photohost.ru/pictures/187017.jpg it is in the showcase along with ampulometem and mina....you can me think why Very Happy.
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Took - it is the opinion of my friend, pyrotechnics, whose qualities and on the inventory of guns and ammo I believe. However he also says that the buckshot charge is not excluded. Just doubting him..
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https://army.lv/files/61.pdf

If someone pročte I'll be happy, there is mention of ampulometu..
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Well, honestly, I don't believe telling someone the thing you never knew, the rather that all the sources speak the same, and otherwise than he did.
And if it's what is in the museum in kbely has a number of figures in the exposure of the meaningless uniforms, do you think that it proves that it had to be in 1918? Or when, in the exhibition about our legion was a machine gun maxim 1910 which is but fashioned in the issued version of up from the second half of the twenties (with a hole for the nandavání snow) do you think that this proves that the legion had before been doing? Just empty the place was to be something to fill, nothing more and nothing less. By the way if there should be it wouldn't be mine (just blow) but just she drive put. This is just that there was a place. And if so do you believe the exposures, the photo here : www.feldgrau.net is ampulomet along with a flamethrower )the bunch behind him, do you think that it has too a connection? or to him belongs the tek shield what lies next? Smile Putting into context what museum staff put together is nonsense. Just look at the figurys in the military history institute, most of them wearing historical nonsense, but it's in a museum it's not, the viewer's totý most won't recognize and so don't mind that the machine gun is about ten years younger, or that flint is vintage, but the sea squirt belongs to a completely different and bullets in them don't give. So yes I think that's lying next to mine it is coincidence and the source based on faith is not the source. Ask of where his information took. And if I know a prescription to ampulometu probably not, most of the regulations what I have on Russian weapons is issued later than weapons (often from two or three years), ampulomet were only used for about a year and a prescription for him, he probably wasn't issued. At least I'm on the mention of him did not come across..
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I mean, I'm saying, even he is not convinced, however, only by doubting and verification of the information a person learns anything. With the mine - of course it was not meant so, that would be her shot at all, but can there be to showcase note that the use of the same filling. Of course this is just a maybe...Of workers museums have no illusions I'm not...you Try this book? Otherwise, this is quite beyond me, for my taste it has too big a caliber to care - if not for that famous shot in the World at war, so we probably didn't write Very Happy.
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Well, in a free translation it is there that at the beginning of the war was introduced ampulomet, which was "svjeobraznyj" (probably peculiar) a mortar with a few specifics. consisted of mainly on a tripod. Pohoná charge - a hunting bullet caliber 12 (it is the third row from the top) shot at a distance of 204 - 250 meters to an amp of UP to-2 or termitovou charge at a distance of 150 - 250 meters. Following is a description of WHEN-2. Once again, the hunting bullet caliber 12.
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Time to admit defeat...So I admit...but I will look for more, hopefully somewhere will be taken even: cartridge..
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I'm sure looking for, try to find out why the colleague thinks that it is from a mortar, maybe there's some source that we don't know..
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Quote - karaco :

Ad the pressure of the filling 120 mm mortars, of course, that is quite substantial, however, pressures in the 80 mm are certainly not that big.
Or nie, they are probably about čosi nižšie, because propellant is, of course menšia, but the well volume, that makes the gases in the Slovak fáže expandujú is extensively smaller. Mina pre ø 82mm mortar weighs 3,1-3,5 kg, and the core filling obsahujúca about 8 gramov Ng dust it udelila the original rate of 67m/s - in contrast, the buckshot charge has usually filling viac ako 1,3-1,9 gram of dust (20-30 grain).

Besides, a mortar base refill pre ø 82mm mortar has a priemer papierovej casings 20.2 mm; broková 12 - 18.5 mm, so the mortar výmetná filling sa chances to ampulometu didn't even give nabiť without použitia rude forces of (what he though aj's plan)..
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So the pressure in the 82 mm mortar is 69 kPa, does anyone know how much is in 120 mm? Otherwise, a colleague has a promise from the museum, you will be able to "touch" the aforementioned weapon. Also found in the museum were four pieces, one is lost. The three pieces are the Germans, one was seized by the SNB sometime in 1948..
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Jestli bude mít možnost ať nafotí co půjde, především závěr (ono na tom v podstatě moc jiného není)
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If so pozerám on posledné photos from the karaco - on fotke P1050380.jpg it is the conclusion priložená: cartridge, probably pre mortar ø 82mm.
Gave sa zasunúť to nábojovej chamber at least polovicou dĺžky alebo nie?.
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Šla zasunout celá a závěr zamknout bez problémů.
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Zaujímavé...
Etc if how you write, "the Three pieces are after the Germans, one was seized by the SNB sometime in the year 1948." Ktovie to what the germans used (in protitankovom the fight barely, if sa live to see the konca military service) and or nie is a chamber adapted to dodatočne in ich réžii.
Is tiež possible that ampuly To-2 latest dostatočne tight and výmet minometnou nábojkou zniesly..
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The germans do not use in the fight, they supposedly had in the museum..
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