SVK - BRAMS

BRAMS


Self-propelled anti-aircraft set


BRAMS is a modern highly mobile anti-aircraft set designed to destroy low-flying manned and unmanned aerial targets. The armament of the set located in the armored tower consists of an anti-aircraft double cannon 2A38M caliber 30 mm, coupled machine gun caliber 7.62 mm, four ground-to-air guided missiles with infrared self-loading and smoke grenade launchers (2x4). An automated fire control system in cooperation with superior command and control systems allows you to search, automatically track and destroy targets day and night, in normal and severe weather conditions. The modern stabilized optoelectronic sight includes a day and thermal imaging camera and a laser rangefinder. The weapon system is located on a unified Tatra 815 wheeled chassis with 8x8 drive. The multi-layer armor protects the crew's cabin against fragments and classic projectiles of infantry weapons up to 12.7 mm.


Technical data of the vehicle


Country of origin: Slovakia
Combat weight: 27,100 kg
Length: 9.89 m
Width: 2.95 m
Height: 3.3 m
Top speed: 100 km/h
Driving range: 700 km
Tower measurement: 360 °
Aiming of cannons: -5 to + 85 °
Aiming of guided missiles: 0 to + 70 °


Equipment


Cannon 2A38M
Firing rate: 2250 (rounds/min)
Effective range: 3 km
Ammunition supply: 600 pcs


Coupling machine gun PKT
1 x 7.62 mm


Guided missiles 9M313
Number of pieces: 4
Rocket body diameter: 72 mm
Maximum destination speed on arrival: 360 m/s (1,296 km/h)
Maximum destination speed on departure: 320 (1,152 km/h)
Range on arrival: 4.5 km
Range on departure: 5 km
Maximum altitude of the target: 3,000 m
Total weight of the rocket: 10.8 kg



edited by M. Smíšek 18.5. 2005, 19:49

Brams

Brams

At the exhibition...

Slovak BRAMS set from "profile".

View zozadu:.

And one more nice photo when shooting.

Brams from the Air Defence Training Base Poprad (formerly the Air Defence Training Centre Poprad), 1st Anti-Aircraft Training Battery of the Anti-Aircraft Training Detachment, during trials at the Poprad airfield.

Source: author's archive, photo by Ján Králik

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Day of Slovak Defence Industry (20.10.2016) and shooting with 30mm ShPlK Brams.

How is BRAMS? Is it in production, is it in service, or is it just testing?

Only a prototype built. It is either in VHM Piešt'any or in VTSU Záhorie. Serial production has not started... (no wonder, it would look like a dinosaur on the battlefield...)

Somewhere I saw a photo from VTSÚ Záhorie, it should be there in some hangar together with other technical gems .

Čo bol vlastne dôvod nezavedenia tohto systému? Nesplňoval očakávané požiadavky, alebo sa stal jednoducho "obeťou" šetrenia?

Požiadavky splňal (aspoň tie čo sa týkali palebných schopností). Samotný systém zakapal na neexistencii koncepcie rozvoja vojska PVO a finančných nákladoch na jeho zavedenie (nejde len o BRAMS, ale aj o súvisiace náklady na systémy ASV, logistiku (nabíjacie prepravníky, garážovanie) a ďalšie potrebné prvky (napr. ženijné zabezpečenie)).


Okrem toho - ako dlhoročný príslušník vojskovej PVO si nedokážem predstaviť bojovú činnosť tohto mastodonta v prednej línii obrany. Predsa len - klasické BVP má hmotnosť 12,5 tony a výšku niečo cez 2 m. Tento kolos má hmotnosť viac ako 27 ton a výšku 3,3 m. Napr. húfnice Dana/Zuzana na obdobnom podvozku sa nepchajú na prednú líniu obrany a nikto po nich nechce, aby sa v teréne presúvali zarovno s prvosledovými jednotkami. Neviem, či sa do záverečnej správy dostali aj tieto pripomienky, nakoľko aj keď stál BRAMS v "mojej" garáži, členom komisie na vojskových skúškach som nebol.


BRAMS má peknú palebnú silu a presnosť a relatívne dobrú priechodivosť v teréne - čo laici obdivujú pri ukážkach. Lenže súčasne ho jeho veľkosť v rovnakom teréne aj demaskuje a v prípade jeho uviaznutia / nepojazdnosti môže nastať problém s jeho vyslobodením (ak by bol zaradený u mech. útvaru - bežný prostriedok mech. práporu (VPV) síce s dvomi kladkami dokáže vyvinúť ťah až 34 ton, ale pre odťah nepojazdnej techniky je limitovaný hmotnosťou 15 t).


Aj keby sa našli peniaze na jeho zaradenie, neplánovalo sa nejaké veľké množstvo týchto vozidiel. Nie som si istý, či nemalo ísť o cca 9 ks pre pozemné sily (3 čaty po tri vozidlá) s možnosťou niekoľkých ďalších kusov pre potreby obrany letísk (náhrada PldvK).


Toto je citát z materiálu prerokovaného vo vláde SR v roku 2011 (www.rokovania.sk )


(kompletný materiál www.rokovania.sk )

Len neviem, či by nebola radšej aspoň takáto PVO ako žiadna. Predsa len PlRB Nitra by staćila možno na ochranu strategických objektov, ale na ochranu jednotiek už by to bol problém.
Inak tá váha je veľmi podobná váhe plánovaných nových BOV 8x8. Ale pre tento systém je to už asi neskoro.

Na ochranu pozemných jednotiek slúži protilietadlový oddiel Igla plrb Nitra. Takže pozemné jednotky bez ochrany nie sú.

But BOV 8x8 (resp. AMV XP) is a slightly different category than the armored T-815 VP 31. The BOV engine has an output of 450 kW, the Tatra engine some 265 kW, which is a fairly large disparity at a similar weight.


There are several layers of PVO. The lowest ground forces at that time provided themselves (PLdvK, S-10, S-2M, Igla), air force subordination brigades (Nitra, Rožňava, Pezinok) provided higher levels (from 2K12 Kub, through S-75 and S- 125 (until their elimination) up to S-300). As I have already said, the lack of a PVO concept also played a role in the demise of BRAMS, as it was not clear how to develop these capabilities. There was a period when the S-10M kits were scrapped, to be reintroduced into service in a few years and then scrapped again. In the end, it ended as it ended - the ground air defense was canceled and all units were concentrated on a brigade in Nitra, which maintains these capabilities and, if necessary, the units would be assigned to battalions.

So wouldn't the solution be to move the shooting module to a lighter chassis? How do you think it would be technically complicated?

The weight of the Potato is 27100 kg, the T-815VP31 chassis alone weighs 16400 kg. This means that the ammunition tower weighs about 10,000 kg. Even if it fits the BVP chassis ( CEILING), or MT-LB (or its clones) , so the weight of the product exceeds 20000 kg. Taking a tower and throwing it somewhere else is not the solution. On the other hand, the cannons and missiles + software themselves are OK. Using current electronics and installing it in an unmanned tower shouldn't be such a problem - the question is whether it's economically viable. And I doubt it. A system similar to BRAMS has developed in Poland - SOPEL - although the cannons are only 23 mm, but the rest is similar - but unlike BRAMS, the Polish resource is more than 10,000 kg lighter. But even the police, who did not spare the army, did not eventually implement their system.