17.09.2018 - V Sýrii zostrelené Ruské prieskumné lietadlo Il-20M

17.09.2018 evening around 22:00 CET sa pri the coast of Syria (approximately 35 km from the pobrežia) lost their prieskumné airplane Ilyushin Il-20M. The Russian defense ministry subsequently announced that the machine was zostrelený paľbou Sýrskej air defense, namely anti-aircraft rocket complexis -200 (similar to the Ukrainian ensemble zostrelil 04.10.2001 during cvičenia Russian civilné airplane Tu-154M (flight 1812) company Siberia Airlines) that postreľovala probably Israeli lietadlá (4 x the F-16I?), that Russian machine used ako rádiolokačné krytie in attack on ciele in Syria. In lietadle killed 15 Russian vojakov, after the ruins of the lietadla and obetiach pátra the Russian ship Professor Nikolai Muru.

In this time of bolo bol pri raketovom attack vedenom from the area Stredozemného mora ruined aj muničný warehouse ležiaci in town Lazikija, pri ktorom was injured as a result of minimally 10 Sýrskych vojakov.


Russian ministertsvo defense odsúdilo procedure Israel near the Russian basic as irresponsible and reserving the right to adekvátnu answer. From podielu on raketovom attack on objects on the Sýrskom coast súčestne accused aj France, that the rocket attacks malo využiť frigate Auvergne. France ostreľovanie Syria popiera.


Source: syria.liveuamap.com
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I would add that according to the israeli side, the plane was shot down at the time they were his fighters already back in Israel.

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The Russian Ministry of defense announced that they found part trosiek, part of the tiel and personal things 15 členov crew, ktorí lost the life in zostrelení Il-20M close to the pobrežia Syria.

Miesto, kde sa machine zrútil to mora, sa nachádza roughly 27 kilometrov west of the sýrskeho city Bániás.

Il-20 is equipped with a wide range of antennas, infrared and optical senzorov, radarmi with bočným vyžarovaním and satelitným komunikačným systémom pre zdieľanie put in reálnom time. During the missions in Syria tieto lietadlá probably odpočúvajú communication between militantmi of the Islamic state and určujú ich pozície. Under zverejnených informácií Russia yesterday came on the airplane with registračným your RF-93610 (v. no 173011504), which was made in 1973.

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One of the príčin, who had contributed to the tragic sequence of events and takes tragickejšiemu vyústeniu is aj "quality and skills" príslušníkov Sýrskej air defense.

Source: www.acig.info
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Phase 3:
the Israelis are turning away south and flying away, back towards their bases. Everything is fine, 'but': at the same time, their GBU-39s are flying in the direction of Syria, still undetected.
Keep in mind it takes minutes for subsonic weapons that reach their targets when fired from, say, 45-50 kilometres away.
Phase 4:
the Israelis, sure that they have released their weapons without any problems, call the Russians at Hmeimim that warn them of their attack. In reaction to their call, the Russians call their Il-20M, and tell the crew to return to Hemimim AB, 'pronto'.
Phase 5:
as the PGMs approach the coast, the Assadists open fire; Russians not, they are informed by the Israelis that the Israelis aren't going to target them.
Phase 6:
now the 'wall' of Israel PGMs is approaching the Syrian coast, and 20-30 kilometres behind it is the Russian Il-20M. The Assadists, as indisciplinned as always, are shooting at everything they can see: lots of PGMs and that the Il-20M.
Problem: the SyAAF can't read the Russian IFF. Thus, it cannot find out the Il-20M is what it is, 'friendly'.
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24.9.2018
In response to the recent shooting down of Russian planes Il-20 over the Mediterranean sea will give Russia in the next two weeks, Syria missiles S-300.
On the weekend accused the Russia of the incident of Israel, whose fighter jets operating an air strike in Syria said to cover for the Russian machine. Damascus, therefore, receives from Moscow also communication systems that will allow the syrian air defense to identify the Russian planes. Delivery has ruled out the possibility of other aviation incidents.
Russia five years ago was preparing its supply of missiles S-300 to Syria, but at the request of Israel, the contract was suspended. "Now the situation has changed, and it's not our fault," said today the Russian minister of defense Sergei Shoigu. The minister further said that the Russian army will be over the Mediterranean sea to disturb satellite navigation, on-board radars and communication systems, combat aircraft, that will attack ground targets in Syria.
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The Russian defense ministry zverejnilo photos of RL -400 zobrazujúce situáciu before zostrelom Il-20M.




Nb. buko1: question - are this pictures real air situácie, alebo len simulácia???.
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плач тех насравших в шаровары...
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Russian defence ministry: the Syrian air defence unit that shot down the Il-20 did NOT have a IFF (identification, friend or foe) capability.


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Минобороны РФ: на сирийской ПВО, сбившей Ил-20, отсутствовала система «свой-чужой»

nemá príslušný komponent alebo obsluha nemá príslušné kody ktoré by jej povedali, že "sqawk" zo systému je RUský???
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Správne. Tá S-200 nebol schopná identifikovať, že lietadlo je ruské, keďže systémy sýrskej PVO nediponujú príslušnými zariadeniami/kódmi.

Citace :

„Systém elektronickej detekcie vlastný-cudzí má každý štát svoj,“ uviedol vo štvrtok podľa agentúry Interfax hovorca ruského rezortu obrany Igor Konašenkov. Podľa slov sa tento elektronický systém fungujúci na báze rádiových signálov nemontuje na žiadne zbrojné systémy vyvážané z Ruska v rámci vojensko-technickej spolupráce. Tento prístup sa uplatnil aj v prípade systémov protivzdušnej obrany dodaných do Sýrie Ruskom.

Konašenkov zdôraznil, že neexistuje precedens, keď by bol tento systém odovzdaný cudziemu štátu spolu s ruskými identifikačnými kódmi. Uviedol, že „nič také sa nestalo a ani sa nemôže stať“.



A pochybujem, že Sýrske systémy vôbec disponujú možnosťou rozpoznať vlastné, sýrske, lietadlá od izraelských/ruských.


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Citace - buko1 :

Pozn. buko1: otázka - sú to snímky reálnej vzdušnej situácie, alebo len simulácia???



To asi bude závisieť od skutočného časového priebehu akcie .... Rusi na začiatku zverejnili, že Izraelci zaútočili okolo 22.00 hod a Iljušina im zostrelili Sýrčania okolo 23.00. A hodina je dlhý čas, aby IASF poletovali v priestore, nie? Asi si počkajme na ďalšie informácie, ktoré isto vyjdú na svetlo.
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